Everytime when thought arises, do I must go back tracing the source of thoughts.

M.: Quite so; in that way the thoughts will disappear and the Self alonewill remain. In fact there is no inside or outside for the Self. Theyare also projections of the ego. The Self is pure and absolute.

i got the point what Maharishi is trying to convey through this, but my questions is how to do this. i am not able to get it completely.

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All our thoughts can finally be reduced to the 'I' thought. As Ramana would further ask in the book on many occasions, in answer to various questions: "To whom does the question arise?" Or, "To whom does the thought arise?" The questioner will have to answer: "To me." It means all questions , all thoughts are based on the questioner or his basic thought, the "I" thought. Thus leading to the "I" or "I thought" Ramana would then further ask the questioner to ask himself "Who is this 'I'?" Or, "Who am I?". And if the questioner is evolutionally ripe enough, someday he will experience the Self or All Spirit in response to this question. In fact I had what I call my 'First Experience of Oneness' in answer to this question myself. I suppose you have read about it at Intentblog.com. If not, let me know and I will paste a copy here.

The above is just as if were the salt doll of the previous example to trace her origin in the same way, that is, by asking the question "Who or What is she?" she will reach the water of the sea or will find that she has, in fact, no separate existance from the water of the sea and is the sea itself which in that case is like All Spirit or Self. Similarly, we or any questioner will reach All Spirit.

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Can destiny (karma) ever come to an end?

M.: The karmas carry the seeds of their own destruction in themselves.

i didn't get real meaning, i think they are trying to say like give away the doer feeling from the doings or something else, please elaborate.

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A seed has a future plant in it. We can say that the seed has the karma of developing into a plant. It is its life. Now, in developing into a plant it will be at the same time destroying its potential or karma of giving birth to a further plant. Similarly, our karma are contained in our brain/minds and in giving birth to us or our life are at the same time destroying themselves. In the process of our living we will at some point of time develop the doer feeling and at some further point of time get rid of it. Everything happens in terms of evolution and really we have not much say in it. (Have you read my book, if not, perhaps you should.)

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"Can anyone get any benefit by repeating sacred syllables (mantras)picked up casually?M.: "No. He must be competent and initiated in such mantras.

As Sikhism, Hinduism,Muslims..most of the religion are based on reciting the sacred mantras. So what your thought is about this. i agree with explanation given in talk and it is also the same when i am reciting sacred symbol, mind remains calm for some time after that it start to wonder here and there again. Please guide me how i will proceed now ?

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All are on different rungs of the ladder of evolution, and that means all are not ripe for getting benefit of repeating sacred syllables. The question is of getting the benefit and that too, in most cases in talks with Ramana, of realising the Self. Obviously, all can not do it. An initiator (Guru) will at once judge the evolutionary status and hence competency of the seeker and will give the suitable mantra accordingly. That does not mean that all cannot repeat them as said by various religions you mention. But the benefit in their cases will be no more than some calmness of mind. Ramana's focus is on realizing the Self. All are yet far from it, he is not talking to them but to particular persons. May be, were he had to answer the same question to people in general, he too may have said, "Yes, yes, you too will benefit..."Whatever you are doing, you are finding your own way and going straight to where you are supposed to go. So don't worry on that count. Carry on with whatever comes to your mind. As Ramana would have said, finally the Guru is within each one of us and is directing our actions. You shouldn't overly worry about your mind wandering. Let it rather wander. Trying to fight; it is rather like giving life to it or to its wanderings. Sometimes even it is desirable to submit to its dictates. After some time it will lose its force/hold. Finally all will come around because it is destined that all will realise their Self thanks to the Grand Scheme of Things of evolution.

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